Forget the dust deputy dust extraction thien baffle plan by kenbo on lumberjocks woodworking. For a while now ive been meaning to play with making a thien baffle for my garage workshop. Add a teacher note to share how you incorporated it into your lesson. Wire the dust collector for use with a remote switch. In time i think the thien baffle will replace many of the cyclones in use due to the less expense and room requirement to accomplish the same thing. System design variables for a dust collection system to function adequately engineers must design and operate the system to maintain the 4 key design parameters of cfm, fpm, vacuum pressure and air. Fine dust cam vac cyclone design with thien baffle. To interface the thien baffle section with the bottom of the vacuum cleaner, a chipboard disk fits inside the top of the bucket, and piece of 10mm mdf fits underneath the vacuum cleaner. Just thought i would share my version of the hfdc thien baffle transformation. Hfdc barrel top 2 stage thien cyclone by michael j.
A thien separator, sometimes called a thien baffle, is a device to direct an airstream with dust in it to allow the dust to fall out of the airstream. In my design i used some thin plywood, and to seal the top of the unit i used some leftover acrylic clear. It is inspired from a design i saw on youtube search for panaxion. My idea, not built yet, just in the design stage, is a 400mm dia at the base of the cone x 300mm high cyclone with a thien baffle. Building a diy dust separator thien cyclone did it myself. Many people have looked at my site and concluded that i feel my design is a. If youve ever seen a dustcollecting cyclone in person i checked one out in dino makropoulos new jersey shop, youll be surprised at how simple and jeezicouldbuildwunnathese it. It can be used between the dc blower and the tools that.
A lot of reading, thinking and changing my mind i finally decided to try and make a thien baffle based on j. The baffle itself is a single sheet of material cut into a design that looks a bit like a partlyeaten pie. Hi all here is a model i have produced of a top hat dust separator in fusion 360. This is a thien baffle quickly created with a 5 gallon bucket.
And im especially not sold on the in the ring thien, and for one main reason. The quest for an affordable dustcollecting cyclone, part. The computeraided design cad files and all associated content posted to this website are created, uploaded, managed and owned by third party users. Thiens innovation was to add, at the top of the conical chamber, a baffle to reduce whats called scrubbing. Id read good things about the baffle designed by phil thien, so i decided to adapt it for my harbor freight dc.
Next, i marked another circle one inch in from the edge around 34 of. Build a seethrough cyclone dust separator for your shop. The thien also kills your cfm by well over 60% and that is just with straight pipe. Part of it is the function preserve the good vf6000 filter i put in the vac, and also slightly easier to. This is an easytobuild dust separator with a baffle based on j. Cyclone, software for design, modelling and optimisation of gas. This deviates from the thien baffle design, which removes 240 degrees.
The plans shown below are for basic 5gallon bucket dust separator. How i did it you can check by looking diy video or you can follow up. By the weekend i felt ready to give the thien baffle dustchip separator build a go. As phil thien says in his design the baffle is a critical piece of the separator this allows dust whipping around the inside of the separator to drop into the bucket and not get picked back up i started by making a slightly smaller circle than the last one this needs to. Someday i may have to make a bigger baffle but for now this works like a charm. One thing you can do with a dd on a shop vac that a thien cannot is handle drywall dust. I have no lids for these buckets, so the baffle disk needs to also serve as the lid for the larger bucket. With all the reporting that fww has done re dust collection, it is disappointing that no mention has been made of the thien cyclone separator design. Designing and sizing baghouse dust collection systems. Mar 1, 2014 adding a thien baffle to a harbor freight dc.
I dont have to go anywhere but to my own shop to see and use a thien baffle, i have one on my shopvac, works good. However, if i look at the separtor design on phil thiens site, the baffle is placed tight against the inlet elbow which would imply the baffle in the hfdc should be higher up in the ring, perhaps even just. Phil thien s design, here and use that in conjunction with the shopvac. Free instant download get thien baffle plans zimbabwe. I did this partially because of the thin material i used and partially so i could tune the system later which ended up not being needed. A greatly enhanced version of this pipe joint software is now available. One of the posts on paulmarcels blog got me thinking about setting up a harbor freight 2hp dust collector and a thein separator. Thien baffle dust extractor with quick change bucket. I have made the thien baffle a separate part so that i can just screw a new design on to the bottom of the cyclone. I recently renovated my shop and have, among other things, improved my dust extractor and shopvac, both of which i have. The edge sources are distributed along the edge of the baffle such that each edge source represents the same angle, as seen from the driver sources.
The best thien baffle plans zimbabwe free download pdf and video. I decided i didnt want to 3d print a dust separator, so i decided to see if i could use 4 pvc pipe to do it. Making a thien dust baffle for your woodworking dust collector. I only went with 4 because its a bit smaller than the lid of the dust collection container i. Another mod i put in place was to make the thien into a top hat version by inserting an 11. As phil thien says in his design, the baffle is a critical piece of the separator. If youre not familiar with phil, he came up with a nifty baffle, and uses it in a trash. Build a thien baffle we make two versions one with a trashcan for a full size dust collector, and one with a 5 gallon pail for a shop vacuum. The baffle itself is a single sheet of material cut into a design that looks. Thien tophat design for collecting saw dust in the shop. Phil thien, inventor of the thienbaffle, writes i thought your shop vacseparator articles were very well done and nicely balanced.
Fullrange single drivers multi way loudspeakers, open baffle ob, infinite baffle ib, sealed, ported, vented, bandpass, transmission line tl, front and back loaded horn, tapped horn. Improved thien baffle dust collector design from two. Phil thiens cyclone separator lid w the thien cyclone. The use of elbows or side inlet and center outlet is part of the design of a thein baffle and cannot be separated. This disk is the basic heart of the thien baffle design, referenced above. Actually i have two shopvacs large and small so i had two builds in mind.
Modified harbor freight dust collector jays custom creations. As can be seen in figure 1, this method automatically results in a higher edge source density when the driver is placed near the baffle edge and that each source can have the same amplitude. If you want to use a wider thien style slot, you should use a thicker material for the baffle itself. The thien cyclone separator lid w the thien cyclone separator baffle after seeing one sexy cyclone after another at the various woodworking forums, and with the understanding that cyclone lids arent true cyclones and dont offer a full cyclone experience, i decided to try them nonetheless. Disassemble the dust collector and mount it to the wall. I didnt want to have my motor permanently mounted to a wall above the barrel, so i decided to attach it right. Adding a thien baffle to a harbor freight dc family. It works because the incoming air is forced around the outside wall, where the heavier dust and chips. In rebuilding my shop after move, i intended to build a thien baffle for my rigid shopvac. Learn the art of woodworking using these stepbystep woodworking.
Theory and projects, mostly diy speakers and subwoofers. Adding a third stage to my dust collection just on the line for the planer. I picked up the 55 gal drum from the salvage yard today and built another thien baffle to fit it. This time ill show you, how to make a cyclone dust separator from two buckets. That is a really nice build on the filter, however, by rotating the motor impeller, you have or will shortly destroy your motor. Use the bucket section to draw circles on a piece of wood. This allows dust whipping around the inside of the separator to drop into the bucket and not get picked back up. Please practice handwashing and social distancing, and check out our resources for adapting to these times.
Making the thienbaffle chipseparator part 2 youtube. Build a seethrough cyclone dust separator for your shop vac. Enclosure design sw an enclosure design software is supposed to help a designer calculate the optimum dimensions of the predefined geometry of a speaker cabinet. Chrome does not print to scale, do not use chrome browser. Multi smaller bass drivers vs single larger bass driver. Since making my 1st top entry thien separator and then read quite a bit of the other related threads, i want to put a question to the forum. The thien cyclone separator lid w the thien cyclone separator baffle after seeing one sexy cyclone after another at the various woodworking forums, and with the understanding that cyclone lids arent. Mar 21, 2017 making the thienbaffle chip separator part 2 youtube stay safe and healthy. With cyclone, the design, conception modelling, simulation and optimisation of cyclone is very easy. It seems that there are at least four ways to do this. This will put the bulk of the waste into a container thats easy to empty and make it much. Jens larsens dust extractor thienbaffle modifications.
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